ThaFormula.com - So let's start off by breaking down the new album?

Necro - Ahh, it's phat man. It's all about violence and whores. It's all about fucking vaginas.

ThaFormula.com - How has this new album done compared to "I Need Drugs"?

Necro  - This one's different because I need drugs had new joints and shit but some stuff on I need drugs I recorded in '98. It had some freestyles on it. Some shit was recorded I think in 2000, so it was kind of like mish-moshed and shit. Some tracks had better quality then others. With this album everything was recorded in the same studio, same mind frame, so it was definitely different. That's why I think it kind of came out better, but like there is still jewels on I need drugs. Every album has got jewels on it.  

ThaFormula.com - How did you end up hooking up with Fashion of the Beatnuts for that one single?

Necro - I got hooked up I think through Missing Link and shit. Through this cat that was doing A&R for Def Jam and I did a track for Christ that never came out and it let into being cool with him and led into getting down with Al Tariq and doing something for Missing Link. Then I just did a single with Tariq and we put that out. I took a little break not trying to do beats for people for a minute and I think I'm gonna get back into it now because a lot of people have been requesting shit so I'll get back into it. I'm makin' some beat tapes right now for some people that matter.

ThaFormula.com - Well your production on Gory Days has definitely been on point and I thought "I Need Drugs" from your previous album was a hell of a concept. That track really tripped out a lot of people.

Necro - Yeah I need drugs was kind of ill. It was just a little something of an idea. I mean you can listen to the whole album of "I Need Drugs" and you'll see that I wasn't rhymin' nothing else like "I Need Drugs."  It was just like a one time thing. I even made 2 versions, one where I'm rhymin' grimy and shit. But I stayed with the one that sounded more like LL and shit. The whole idea behind it was first of all to flip it, but it was also like imagine if your all dusted and drugged and everything is different now and it's like a twilight show shit. You know you walk in the Twilight Zone and boom the whole song is flipped. So it will sound exactly like him just different lyrics. That was like the main point. It wasn't meant to be something where like boom oh check this out. This is like the representation of my whole style.

ThaFormula.com - Does it make you angry that you probably would have sold double or more off of that album if it would have got out there like you would have liked it to?

Necro - Yeah, you know at first I was pissed off and I was gonna fuck some people up at the label and wild out and shit. But in this business man they try to blacklist you real quick and they try to like fuck shit up for you with other people and muthafuckas are snitches and they got your address, so you got to kind of keep shit in check and think about the big picture, and the big picture is that I know that I'm gonna be huge no matter what because of the fact that, number one I got the talent, number two I got the beats and number three I'm learning everyday the business on another level and I'm building. I'm actually doing shit. So it's like your working out and you know you could get cock diesel but you ain't gonna do that if you sit on your ass all day and do the correct things, but if you know that your working out everyday and eating correctly, you know you gonna get there and I'm doing that. I'm constantly putting in work. I'm constantly doing this and that. Adding on to my shit and constantly making my shit better.  Every year I get more press and every year I'm doing more things.

ThaFormula.com - You put a lot of ads in magazines man!

Necro - Yeah, I pissed away a lot of money in XXL. A lot of money went down the drain.

ThaFormula.com - Why would you say it was money down the drain?

Necro - Because I don't think I sold any records from it and those cock-suckers at XXL won't give me no fucking press in the magazine. I even spoke to the editor Dennis Page. I went like to the head cat and was like "yo what's up, I spent like $26,000 dollars in your shit man, mention me, give me some light, what the fuck!" "You're trying not to acknowledge me?"

ThaFormula.com - They gave you a spot in their "Show & Prove" column though right?

Necro - Yeah, I already had a "Show N Prove" in there in May of 2001 and now I'm doing ads in your shit 4 months in a row. Double page ads plus a regular page that ran 4 months all together and you know you ain't fucking giving me no light, no review, no nothing. Just being shady. It's just all and all I lost out on that because I don't think people bought my records from seeing my picture. I could have spent $30,000 and got about 100,000 snippet tapes and I think that would have did better for me. I just made a bad decision but at the same time I'm doing shit, so when you do shit you fail, you make failures, you make mistakes, but you know what I'm saying I learned from it though. I'm not gonna make the same mistake twice.

ThaFormula.com - I remember you putting out a gang of ads in XXL.

Necro - I mean all I really did was XXL really, and then I did posters and shit and flats and shit like that. I had like 50,000 for "Gory Days" and we sold like 10,000 copies so far in like 3 months so that ain't that bad because I did 20,000 of "I Need Drugs" in a year and a half.  The thing with "I Need Drugs" was that the label fucked me over at the last minute. Our deal was for $120,000. They put in $50,000 and then they wouldn't put in no more money.

ThaFormula.com - Why didn't you try to step to them legally?

Necro - They flaked out in the middle so it wouldn't have done me no good to be like ah fuck you, stop sellin' my record and you done breached it and take them to court because, first of all I really didn't have money for lawyers and I was just kind of fucked because people wanted the record. So if I was to take it away from them and not have somebody else, then the record wouldn't even be getting distributed, so they kind of jerked me in a way where they were able to get over on me and it was like they were putting money into Freddie Foxxx. They put like $200,000 plus into him and that's why he did what he did. Bear in mind that they only put $50,000 into me and that ain't enough man. For a brand new cat like me I need that extra push.

ThaFormula.com - How is it this time out with "Gory Days?"

Necro - It's the same thing with my label right now. This time I was able to do more with the money. I control everything and you know whatever I made mistakes, but it's all good though because I'm a hustler. I make mistakes, I do things, It's all good though because I'm making things happen. I'm opening up a new web site, a porn site. It's gonna be on in about a week or so. I got my website now and I'm about to add mad more product to it. I just did half the Non-Phixion album so it means my production is being featured right next to Primo, Large Professor, JuJu and Pete Rock. I mean all them cats haven't been on the same album I think since Illmatic.

ThaFormula.com - Yeah that Non-Phixion is definitely looking like a classic.

Necro - Yeah, the new 12" that Non-Phixion is droppin', the A-side is produced by Premier and the B-side is produced by me. That's kind of phat because it's like I never really been on a record with my production opposite a heavyweight and Primo is definitely a heavyweight. Shit is progressin' little by little shit moves up. I got "Gory Days" and "Gory Days" has got 12 months value at least. That shit has only been out for 3 months so it's like I got 9 to 10 more months to bombard it down people's throats. I'm gonna be in California for 2 dates during the Warp Tour in July and I'm gonna do the Smoke Out in October in California.

ThaFormula.com - So now that you're on your second album, how are labels reacting to your new album and are you starting to get calls from any labels interested in signing you?

Necro - Shit's going you know little by little. Some record labels is hollering at me now and record labels never hollered at me like "Yo
Necro!" Right now somebody who signed some big people is starting to holla at me. I got meetings this week and shit and it's just like you know I'm not trying to get signed as an artist. These muthafuckas might see me out here and they might say alright boom look at this kid Necro, he's doing it. But I ain't trying to get a little piece of shit percentage of my shit. I ain't trying to have you own my shit. If these guys fucking think that that's the way it's gonna go down they gonna be in for a big fucking wake up call because I ain't getting down like that. I ain't havin' people own my shit. I'd rather struggle a little more.

ThaFormula.com - So did you shop the "Gory Days" album around?

Necro - It's a pain in the ass, but I mean, let's put it this way, The way I'm doing shit now has got these muthafuckas hollering at me. I ain't shopping it to them. I didn't go to them. I didn't have a muthafucka shop me to them. They going out of there way finding me, coming to me so if you ain't gonna give me the deals that I'm looking for, then it ain't gonna go down because there is just no other way that I could be out. So it's like you know well see what happens. Unless somebody is on some million-dollar crazy fucked up banana shit and like I see that doing it will blow me up to a level where I can do what I wanna do, stay the same but have promotion and get more fans and would allow me to do, my, uh, see I got a big picture. My big picture is not just today. I see myself being huge like Kiss. It's a hard thing but I know I'm gonna get there because I know my capabilities.  

ThaFormula.com - How do you see your next album being handled?

Necro - I mean not only can I produce numerous people. I can produce numerous people on my own label and not only that I can drop 100 albums if I got em. I got enough material and enough in my mind state and enough yearning and wanting to drop shit that I'm not like a one album man. I already dropped an album that's at least as good or if not better then my first one in the eyes of a lot of people. I don't got no sophomore jinx shit and it's like it ain't even about that. I'm just gonna get iller and iller and iller. I'm gonna keep trying shit and keep experimenting. I'll make 500 songs just to get a dope one if I gotta. I'm down to work and make it happen. To me it's all a game and shit. It's a game of fun, making a beat and figuring out what lyrics fit it. Coming out with dope shit and if it don't work do something else. It's never ending for me. The only thing is I want to be able to make banging shit and also be able to release it and move 200,000 units at least of each album so I could sit on that 2 million and make sure it's promoted to enough people so the cats that are ill mentally, whether it's a 40 year old man who likes horror movies, whether it's to you guys or this guy.

ThaFormula.com - I could see you writing some crazy movies.

Necro - I wanna make movies! Some Scorsese flicks, that's millions too. I wanna be able to sit down for like 8 months and just write a fucking screenplay to a crazy fucking flick. I can do that. I'll be able to come up with some shit that's gonna mind blow people because I'm like 50 times iller mentally now than I was when I made my first 2 movies.  It's like I look at old shit that I did and I'm so much better. Like my "Gory Days" shit is just on another level and the shit that I did after this is gonna be even better then "Gory Days" because "Gory Days" is like a warm up to get me comfortable in the studio. I was never really fully comfortable in the studio. Because your so busy and there is so many different aspects to being an artist then there is live shows.  There was a time I wasn't really 100 percent on point with the live shows like the way I am now. Everyday I get iller. I'm shocked at how some people fall off and they get weak. I'm surprised how like certain people drop dope shit and then they don't get better with their next shit. How can you be dope today and then get weak after?

ThaFormula.com - We all have had that same conversation on how the dopest MC or producer can just lose it so quickly...

Necro - I know why it happens, because muthafuckas stop doing it. It's like if you do Karate and your a black belt and stop doing it for a year you won't be as good. I'm not trying to fucking stop. I'm trying to keep it rollng. I'm talkin' 10 years from now my hip-hop should not be weak. It shouldn't be some shit where it's like "ah Necro is trying to keep up with the new cats." I should be roasting muthafuckas when I'm 35 because I should be so fucking ill like a sensei. Sensei's don't get weaker. If your 25, by the time your 35, you should be so much iller because you have 10 more years of learning so why the fuck do muthafuckas become musically worse. I don't get it and I ain't fallin' for it. I ain't fallin' for that shit. I make up my own rules and I do shit my way and I know that if I'm slacking off, it ain't because other people say I am, its because I'm doing something wrong.

ThaFormula.com - Yeah, you would think they would realize what made them dope, and just stick to it.

Necro - I think muthafuckas just don't put the energy they put into it ten years before or 5 years before. It's just like that had a certain vibe at that point and they don't go back to that vibe. You know how hard is to just go back to that same exact vibe that you had when you did that or at least equivalent in a new light and that's how I observe myself. I don't even see myself being like that. Unless I decide I don't wanna do it no more. If I decide I don't wanna do it no more that means I don't wanna put hours into it, but I'm not even close to done yet. I can make a whole album on science if I wanted to. I eventually will. There is a lot of shit to do. The fucked up thing is shit is 95 percent business. You gotta get business rollin'. It's business and I got to have business handled. I got to be able to distribute what I make. To me it's weak to make dope shit and not have people hear it. What's the point? Not to have enough people hear it is bad because there is people out there that would like it.  But not everybody can be in the underground scene listening to radio shows everyday. But if you can get that shit to them they are gonna fucking live it. So I got to get my shit to every market.

ThaFormula.com - Do you think that the lack of sales lately from all the wack artists these major labels have signed is a reason why majors are starting to look into the underground?

Necro - Honestly I don't feel there is anyone cutting edge right now that's out there in the known world and I'll give you an example. I look at the XXL magazine and it's gotten to the point where XXL has to put Biggie on the cover. Think about that shit. They have to put Biggie on the cover because they can't fucking put anybody dope on the fucking cover. XXL right now as we speak should have Necro on the fucking cover. I should be on the fucking cover gangsta the fuck out in Brooklyn, New York. I mean Biggie, god bless the dead, Biggie was awesome, he repped it, but I'm alive. I'm sittin' here in Brooklyn right now alive with a bangin' ass album out and in all reality we know I wouldn't be on the fucking cover, but lets's keep it reality wise. I should be on the fucking cover, but they had to go back and put somebody that's not even alive on the fucking cover to sell it because they are all about money and they are not about the fucking art. I
mean there has been numerous Biggie tributes, but the whole point is hip-hop is that fucking stale that they cant even recognize. I mean they won't even review my shit. Muthafuckas won't give me no light. I'm a cat that's down to crack people in the face, which means I keep it real. I ain't a cat that talks about shit and I don't actually do it. I'm known to do it. I've been banned from clubs. It's just some racial shit. Muthafuckas ain't trying to feel a white kid. There's no winning, there is no way for a muthafucka like me to win until I gather fans. I just got to get enough people that like me and its done.

ThaFormula.com - Why do you think the ads in XXL didn't help you get more sales?

Necro - I'll tell you why. Let me ask you a question now. When you fucking look inside a magazine and you look through a magazine, name a magazine that you read? Is there even any hip-hop magazine that you read?

ThaFormula.com - Uh.

Necro - Yo, if you can't even name a magazine that you read, that makes my point even more clear. Did you find out about me from seeing a fucking picture in a ad.

ThaFormula.com - Nah, I heard a track from you a couple years back.

Necro - How did you hear it? Did somebody play it for you?

ThaFormula.com - Yeah.

Necro - That's what fuckin' gets fans for me. That's what will get fans for anyone in my position. But you see if they see a fuckin ad in XXL with a white kids grill, they wont know I'm real. It's very hard for people to find out. You're speaking to me now and you gotta know I'm real and in all reality I know I'm real so I know you gotta feel it ad the whole thing is if you chilled with me in New York you would know I keep it real. But if you look at a picture you cant really tell. I don't got a murderer or killer face. I mean the girls like my face because I'm kind of cute. But the whole point is a picture in a magazine is not ever enough to let people know "oh he's ill," and XXL magazine and all these Source magazines, they won't let me fucking print up an ad that describes what I'm about.

ThaFormula.com - What do you mean they won't let you, you're paying for it?

Necro - They will deny the ad because they did. XXL wouldn't let me put an ad for "I Need Drugs" in there with the words "I Need Drugs."  I had to write debut album. I mean some people do ask when looking at the ad cause it's a white kid.  The will ask is he good, but in all reality they are not gonna go buy my shit until they hear it. So think about it, why waste money on a magazine ad when we go right to the source and let 'em hear it. That's the shit I'm dealing with. It's a fucked up game, but it's a reality game. But I ain't stoppin' and that's what makes me ill compared to a lot of people. A lot of people just wanna stay in their little underground circle. I've already surpassed the underground circle. That shit is cool but 50 percent of those muthafuckas download your shit for free and come up in your grill and shake your hand. That's reality. Meaning if I'm losing 30,000 sales from downloading then I gotta do something to get my 30,000 sales somewhere else.

ThaFormula.com - Now here is something I have wanted to talk about for a minute. We have pretty much let the heads out there know what goes on in the labels as far as politics go. Now we feel its time to take them into the politics that goes on in magazines. What can you tell us about what really goes on as far as what it takes to get your shit on major magazines?

Necro - Oh, I can tell you beautiful things. Did you ever see my "show n' prove in XXL?  

ThaFormula.com - Yeah, I remember that.

Necro - You know what it took to get me in there?

ThaFormula.com - What was that man?

Necro - A pair of fuckin' sneakers. Not because I'm dope. Not because I fucking get mad respect in the underground and my shit is extremely brutal. That ain't the reason why I got up in there. I got up in there 'cause a muthafucka got a pair of sneakers. Recently, I had to buy cocaine for this fuckin' writer to get me up in a big magazine. I'm not gonna mention it, but he got fired from there anyway. But fuckin' I had to buy him cocaine. This is the shit man and this is what goes down with these roaches.

ThaFormula.com - It's funny I used to think back in the day that the labels were bad, but the more I looked into it the more I started to realize that the magazines might be even worse.

Necro - Of course the magazines are worse. You gotta understand man. Lets say some cat is working at the magazine. My name is Joe Bob or whatever. Joe Bob, he works at the fuckin' magazine. He thinks he's a hip-hop kid. He works and he gets paid shit, this kid is livin' at his mother's house or maybe in his apartment. Dude don't get a lot of money. He gets handed mad shit to go in magazines. Certain cats hand him a fucking "G." Certain cats buy him sneakers. Certain cats give him 100 or 200 bucks. This guy needs shit. If he puts you in his magazine for nothin' he ain't really getting nothin'. So the whole thing is these cats want shit. Now sometimes they will put you in for nothing because its their job, but they also gonna put cats before you if they are gonna get laced with a "G" because they might only be getting $200 a week and they need it. Sometimes it's not even political, its just straight up logic. Let's say you were strugglin' and I wanted you to put me on ThaFormula, say ThaFormula was like the biggest fuckin' site ever and I was like, "Yo, I need to get on ThaFormula!", and you were like "nah kid, I ain't really feelin' you." But I was like "you havin' problems playin your rent?" You would be like "yeah, why?" "Well you know I'll give you a "G" right now yo, just give me a review." Come on man, you would be an idiot not to give me a review. Even if you are 100 percent honest which I probably would be. Still you would think in your head, hmm that "G" could help me pay my rent and help me upgrade my site and make it a little better. So this is what goes on and I'm learning little by little that it's not even shady.

ThaFormula.com - It just happens on the regular, and is expected...

Necro - Yeah, It's business and that's all it is. It's like the business is built to say "hey Necro your doing really good, let's sign you and were gonna give you 10 percent, and were gonna keep 90 percent, and we're gonna make you so fucking big that you have to recoup all the money, but we're gonna take off the top 90 percent." "So if we make 2 million and we spend 1 million.  Lets say we spend 1 million to help you make 10 million, we're gonna take 90 percent which means were gonna take 9 million off the top and recoup that 1 million. You'll make fucking ZERO!!" That's why you have to be smart enough to say "you know something fuck that!" It's business. It's all negotiating. I remember going to Fat Beats when I did my EP and I was a shmuck back them. This was '98 man. The dude took 50 percent and shit and he didn't really tell me 20 percent and this is a cat I was supposed to be friends with, but what happens man if your ignorant, muthafuckas will take advantage and you learn and you get mad. I never got mad at that dude. It was just funny, like alright you got over on me. When I learned how he got over on me I was just happy that I learned to the point where I could have bludgeoned that kid and make sure that he never put another record out again but that just part of the game man.   

ThaFormula.com - So once again that's just how the game goes right?

Necro - Yeah man. It's like at the end of the day I start peepin' shit and it's like I would never be like a lot of these scumbags, but in certain ways sometimes you have to be because you look at everybody as scum bags but you don't realize all the work that they did to get to that level that made them a scumbag. Being a scum bag is not cool and its nothin I support and its nothing I got respect for, but I mean this is the way it is for people because they get bitter and they feel like "hey your nothing and you expect me with me with all my props and all the ten years that I put in to give you half because your a dope rapper." The thing is you have to be smart enough, today I know what I'm worth. Even if you didn't pay a million dues yet, you have to be smart enough and kids don't got intelligence and it ain't their fault because I didn't have fucking intelligence, but I'm willin' to school people. I help kids all day. I get emailed by muthafuckas day and fucking night askin' for advice, and I never front because I was lucky enough to get advice from cats like Master P, Cash Money, and Wendy Day. The biggest people shared advice with me and hooked me up so you know how can I front on the new jacks and up and comers. It's a cycle, but if you notice not enough people give people jewels because in all reality to keep power you have to keep your secrets, but I feel like you know fuck it man. Cats that read this interview right now, they're gonna get jewels because a lot of cats don't know this shit and I'm just droppin' experience. I'm gonna have another year of experience a year from now or next time I get interviewed by you guys or anybody else.

ThaFormula.com - What went wrong with the Non Phixion project way back then?

Necro - The problem with them is that they were trying to be artists instead of taking control of their destiny.  I was tellin' them for a longtime.  I'm the type of cat that can read people.  I know what's on everybody's fucking mind because I can read people's reactions, and you know they're not the best at that just like I'm not the best at talkin' to people.  I always told them "ah that guys a scumbag."  MC Serch is a scumbag, don't fuck with that guy.  I can talk to these muthafuckas one fuckin' time on the phone and just hear the way they speak and what their plans were for my brothers shit.  For people that don't know, Ill Bill from Non-Phixion is my brother and fuckin', I just kept tellin him but he had this dream of wanting to be signed and I believe his dream, cause his dream is my dream, but I kind of realized that being independent is the move.

ThaFormula.com - What went wrong with you and Search?

Necro  - Search was shady, Serch robbed them. Serch fuckin' got a budget of a certain amount of money and bought a fucking house with it.  Serch fucking put money into the studio and instead of keeping the money, he ended up getting the label pissed at him cause he spent to much money on bullshit and fucked up the deal and he took to long to get the album done and he was just a fuck face.  He did the same thing to Nas, he did the same thing to O.C. and he fucked over everyone he has ever worked with and that's why he has bad karma.  When you fuck people over, your karma comes back.  I've never fucked anybody over. When I was 17, 18 I used to rob people.  I used to rob ladies, pocketbooks.  I used to rob kicks, I used to rob places.  I used to insult women, I used to be very degrading to women.  I'm very degrading on record now, but I used to be actually verbally degrading  when I spoke to a woman because I didn't know how to speak to a woman 'till I learned how to speak to a woman, because my father was very degrading to women when I was a kid so I didn't know any better. I was so foul and I had bad karma for years which is why I haven't blown up yet. I was paying for karma for so many fuckin' years for doing foul shit. Serch ain't doing no good business right now.  He ain't poppin.  People ain't checkin' for him.  If I was him with the connections that muthafucka has... The fact that he knows Lyor Cohen.  You know what I would be doing with Lyor Cohen if I could meet with that cat.  We talkin' about a cat who's got connections up the ass.  Why the fuck did Non-Phixion not blowup?  Non-Phixion would have been out before Eminem, even though they wouldn't have been commercial they still would have been able to tap into that Limp Bizkit market.  They would have definitely fuckin' went gold. They would have been out and in the world.  But a lot of muthafuckas are greedy cock sucka muthafuckas.    

ThaFormula.com - Yeah, you know we actually did a little thing with Serch and he seemed like a real cool guy?

Necro - Yeah, everybody seems cool until somebody pulls their fuckin' card. Let me tell you something, ain't nobody pullin' my card.  Nobody got nuthin' on me. Ain't nobody can really talk about me because I always kept it real.  Nobody could pull Ill Bill's card.  We done kept it real.  Any kid in the projects will tell you, we was the only cats that fought everybody.  We fought ten kids at once so it was just like guys like Serch.  He came from a time where he has a lot of respect and you know he earned respect for a lot of shit he did.  But he didn't treat his artists right.  He didn't do right by people. He's the reason why I'm not in Non-Phixion.  I was in Non-Phixion before search came in the picture.  I'm gonna keep it real with you, the second I met Serch the first time, I knew he was a snake. Because we were in the car with him and this is why I wasn't in the group.  He was like, I wanna make some shit that Raekwon the Chef likes and blah,blah,blah likes.  At that time I was a young thug.  I still am but now you gotta be a man, you can't be a little kid.  Back then I was a little kid.  I said "fuck that, I don't wanna make shit for other people, I wanna make dope shit that we like," and he didn't like that. Because I looked at it like "why you gonna try and make music for Raekwon to like?"  Make some dope shit from your heart that you like.  I just looked at it like this muthafucka didn't know what the hell he was talkin' about, and don't forget, he was kind of weak at that time.  So it was like my brother and Gortex, they were like the fuckin' back bone.  They were the ones that was keepin' him dope.  They kept him on his fuckin' toes.  My brother was helpin' him with his rhymes.  If he didn't ruin that deal and put Non-Phixion out, he would have did good.  Why did he fuck that up? Why did he fuck himself?  I'm the only cat that Serch could never fuck over. I had him so mad that he was callin' my lawyer up screamin' up because he tried to get over on me and was trying to get a beat for cheaper. Like 2g's cheaper and I wouldn't budge and I knew he needed the beat and I was playing negotiation games with him and he hates when people fucking get him in a negotiation game. It's just like, I don't got time for people like that.  People that don't respect you.  It's like they don't have respect for the game and just wanna rob everybody in the game.  If your gonna play the game, play it fair.  

ThaFormula.com - So was the Non-Phixion album actually ready to drop?

Necro - Yeah, I mean there was joints man, bangaz.  The beat from "Underground" from my "I Need Drugs" album was a Non-Phixion beat.  I made it for them and them cats rhymed over it and had a track.  Non-Phixion were wronged by duke and I'm gonna keep it real.  I ain't worried about nobody.

ThaFormula.com - What type of ads did you run on XXL?

Necro - I took out double pages for 2 issues and one ran for 2 months and I did one page.

ThaFormula.com - How much is it to run something like that man?

Necro - It cost me 11,000 dollars for each one.

ThaFormula.com - What do you think people's reaction will be to the Non-Phixion album?

Necro - Well, I can say one thing, whenever I do beats on anything people love it.  I never had a beat where people said it was weak, so I know that people is gonna love the shit that I did.  I can't speak on what people are gonna think about other shit but I can say Non-Phixion has never had Primo, Large Professor, and Pete Rock on the same album.  I don't think they been on the same album since Illmatic.  So you know that's a treat right there just to people to be able to put on a jam and get some phat Necro shit and bang it with Pete Rock, Large Professor, and Primo.  All 3 of them cats to me is influences.  Cats that were fuckin' ill when I was comin' up.  When I was learning my craft I would listen to their shit and love it. And all 3 of them cats respect me without me even mentioning my name when they was in the studio, all them cats asked, "yo what's up with Necro?"  So like to me that's awesome because those are 3 cats that I definitely got love for beatwise.  I always loved everything they put out and I didn't get up on Primo now.  I was bumpin' Primo with "Step Into the Arena."  The first time "Manifest" came on T.V. I remember tellin' my brother "ayo, some group named Gangstarr came that was pretty ill."  Back then it was ill, it was different but it really blew my mind when "Step Into the Arena" came out.  It was jus ridiculous.  The programming, the drums, you know the whole shit was just nuts.  I mean shit, Q-Tip was bananas back then.  All the early fuckin Quest shit was nuts.  Main Source was bananas.  I mean all the shit the Large Professor did for Kool G Rap and Rakim. "Let the Rhythm Hit Em!"  Bangin Shit!

ThaFormula.com - With the type of shit you rhyme about and your style of beats, can you honestly ever see your stuff on the radio?

Necro - As far as mainstream, why not?  It's all money man.  If there's enough radio promotion money behind me and I got a radio promoter and I make a track.  You can take my "Bury you with Satan" track.  Clean out all the things, take out anything that might be to vile and just clean it up and it would sill be pure brutality. I could make a version that would be ill enough to be played on radio but you gotta analyze it.  I'm a product, I love making hip-hop.  I love hip-hop from the heart.  I'll die for it, I sacrifice everyday for it.  There's nothing I like more then hip-hop and I feel oppressed.  I gotta deal with mad people who just don't believe in me and it's like fuck you.  But once I beat down the brick walls that are in front of me, yeah I'm gonna be fucking huge.  That's the funny thing about it.  All the people that front on me are playing themselves because I'm gonna have the last laugh because I'm genuine to hip-hop.  A lot of these people are not genuine to hip-hop.  They can't rhyme dope, they never been on radio shows and freestyled, they never had fans or showed loved to their fans.  They never made beats for people.  There just copiers.  Like Jay -Z, I got respect for him.  I remember the first time Jay-Z was on the radio.  On Bobbito and Stretch rhymin' with Big L.  I know him like that.  I remember when he was in the Original Flavor video.  The point meaning I'm not caught up in the bullshit.  I put myself on the same level as a Jay-Z.  Only thing is his business is handled fucking impeccably.  I mean the guy is down with Dame Dash.  Dame Dash is godly.  His mentality is godly. He's fucking dope mentally as a business man.  There all dope. Jay-Z is a dope rapper. I remember hearing Mase rhymin' fuckin' murder shit when he was Murder Mase.  He was down with a crew called 8 is Enough.  It was hot.  Camron was hot. They were all dope.  I felt it. Yo, I go back man. I used to pick up the Source and look at the Unsigned Hype and say I should be on there and this was when Mobb Deep was on there man.  But it wasn't gonna happen because I was a white kid.  It just wasn't happening back then.  They were not putting no white kid in there, plus my business wasn't being handled.  I didn't have a manager who had connections, but I was rhymin' like everybody else was rhymin.'  I was in school rhymin' getting loved rockin' Fila shirts.  I remember when I was like 15 or 16 entering a battle.  I walked out with a Charles Manson shirt and I got booed.  It was like 80 percent black cats.  They just booed me before I even rhymed.  I actually battled dude and kept rhymin' and shit and the guy ended up comin' at me and shit and gave me props.  I lost the battle because I got booed, but I was so sick in the head I was warped.  A guy told me before we walked on, he was like you can't go on there with a Manson shirt and he gave me a DMC shirt to put over it.  I said fuck, shit, I wanna wear my Manson shirt and ended up right before I went on taking off the DMC shirt because I was so fucked up in my head coming from such a fucked up mentality with my hip-hop that I felt like I was gonna get over by rockin' the Manson shirt.  Little did I even realize man that Manson was a fucking racist.  I was such a young stupid muthafucka that I didn't even realize that he was on some bullshit Nazi shit which I don't support, but it's like this is how sick I was.  I was a young fuckin' you know banana crazy kid. So I don't look at these people that are out now and they're not my influences.  I'm influenced by the same muthafuckas that guys like Mobb Deep and them are.  Rakim, Krs-1, Big Daddy Kane, G Rap.  

ThaFormula.com - What would you consider your ultimate collaboration?

Necro - I was thinkin' about that yesterday.  The ultimate fucking collabo would be Necro, Ozzy Osbourne, and Gene Simmons.  And I would be doing straight hip-hop on the track.  I'd be rhymin' but I'd have them do some crazy hook shit, talk some caca cause Gene Simmons is a bundle of fucking caca talk. Shout out to Gene Simmons.  I would also love to work with Ice-T.  The people I would work with are more obscure.

ThaFormula.com - I never thought about that man.  Ice-T rhymin over your production would be some crazy shit.

Necro - I wanna work with the legends.  I wanna work with G Rap.  I don't care about these new muthafuckas.  .

ThaFormula.com - I like the fact that a lot of the dope producers are starting to bring back the classic MC's like Kane, G Rap, etc.

Necro - I mean I love them cats, but at the same time I feel like I'm at their level. I got mad love for them.  I would never wanna get into a beef with a LL Cool J.  I would avoid it because there is just too much respect for these people.  When I was a little peon 10 or 11 years old, they were the fuckin' shit and it was iller back then.  It was not like the way it is now.  When Big Daddy Kane walked around with Gold and bitches, it wasn't like if some cat did that now.  Back then it was genuinely godly.  That's why I gotta do my own thing, but don't try to be like '88 rap.  Do your 2002 shit but make it so genuinely incredible because you can't be somebody. You could worship them and respect them but you gotta be yourself.  When Big Daddy Kane came out he wasn't trying to be like cats in 1978.  He was the next level.  When Rakim came out he wasn't rhymin' like Melle Mel.  He was probably influenced by Melle Mel, but he took it to a whole new level. A lot of these cats out there ain't bringing shit to the game.  I ain't gonna mention names, but a lot of these cats that be all up on the old schools dick, uh, see I got respect for the old school on some "I respect you and I would like to do a track with you on my beat and let's do some next level brand new shit."  Like the way G Rap will get on a Mobb Deep beat and rip it. He rips it like a brand new cat and he shreds it to the point where ain't nobody fucking with it.  Ain't no young buck fuckin' with it.

ThaFormula.com - Why do you think a young producer like Alchemist blew up so quickly?

Necro - He does a lot of shit for other people.  I done a lot of shit to but at the same time Alchemist is not a rapper so he has more time to concentrate strictly on beats.  I've probably made almost as many dope bangin' beats as he has if you combine Non-Phixion, Cage, my shit and that, but he's worked with people that are so much bigger than me and the people I've worked with.  He's worked with the heavy hitters and he's dope.  I like the shit he did on Mobb Deep's album "Murda Musik" and I like many things that he's done. He's handling his biz and he happens to be Israeli like me to from what I heard.  Bear in mind that he's also down with a cat like Muggs and Muggs is a cat who is a multi-platinum cat who opened up a lot of doors.  In this game you got to know people.  It's business and political.

ThaFormula.com - Are you gonna be droppin' a "Gory Days" instrumental LP?

Necro - Yeah, I'm gonna make that happen and I'm gonna do a Necro Instrumentals one too.  Necro Instrumentals Vol. 1.  It's all coming together.  I dropped "Gory Days" and it's with Select O Hits and they don't really put that much energy behind me because I'm not selling enough records.  I fucked up a lot with half the money.  The P.R. never happened.  I hired fuckin' Michael Jacksons' P.R. and they fucked me.  Suzzanne Blonde. Don't ever fucking go to Suzanne Blonde, they are the fucking worst.  They are the worst company ever because after 2 months they were telling me everybody said no, and I was paying them 8g's.  I ended up getting my money back.

ThaFormula.com - How have your sales been in L.A.?

Necro - My best is New York and then fucking L.A. and then Chicago.  Those are the biggest markets for everybody really, but those are my biggest markets as well. I'm also opening up my new site.  I plan on my new site to make me G'z.  It's a porn site.  I got a big customer base that I built up in the last 2 years so that's gonna make me money to promote and I'm gonna be bubblin'.  I'm the type of cat that shit's gotta keep getting better and better and better.  I'm independent man.  I'm like Cash Money and Master P at the beginning stages but a little worse off because I produce all my shit, I rap all my shit and I run everything.  If you look at Cash Money, Baby and Slim.  They never produced a track in their life. They never have to worry about the time and energy producing a track. Manny Fresh, he don't rap, all he has to do is make beats.  See it's very easy for a cats to do one thing.  All they do is rap or all they do is business like Dame Dash, he don't rap or produce.  Master P, he don't produce and the shit that he raps about is pretty simple as compared o the multi syllabic shit I got to come up with and I raised the bar I feel for like my genre for the shit that I do to the point where if I come weak on a track and I don't put in the energy, people will be annoyed.  I can't come and drop a rhyme like P does cause cats will be like Necro is buggin'.  That's how people are.  Most people they ain't really into this shit. You wanna be a boxer, you gotta fucking be a boxer.  You can't be no halfway boxer.  You got to fucking train.  Shit's real.  You wanna be a hip-hop artist, you gotta do this shit 24/7.  You can't just blow up like Destiny's Child and just be some dumb shit.  I always hoped that there would have been that big cat that was huge who would put me under their wing and I would get to come out through their props and do my thing and blow up, but it didn't happen like that.  But God said "I'm gonna put you through hell because your cause is to be the main man who takes all these other ill cats and helps them."  I guess I was chosen.  It don't make me a big special muthafucka, but it's kind of an honor and at the same time. I got to go through a lot of hell.  A lot of stress, but there is also a lot of knowledge and jewels that comes with it and a lot of good things I will be able to do for people.  Just like dropping brutal raps.  Dropping an album about fucking murdering people, I'm actually fucking helping some of these kids out here.  Some of these kids who's brains are destroyed and need some brutal music to let out their aggression.  I help those muthafuckaz and I help myself.

ThaFormula.com - So what do you think you would be doing now if you weren't doing hip-hop?

Necro - Honestly if I wasn't doing this right now, I would probably have killed somebody already.  I would probably be in jail.  Definitely, probably be in jail from all the anger I have in me, I probably definitely would have killed somebody and been locked up or I would have been a gangster or some shit if I didn't have hip-hop. I used to sell weed and acid and shit like that and I started talkin' to people and tellin' them I wanna start sellin' coke, but they were like "nah nah man, you should concentrate more on your hip hop," and I was like true, because I love hip-hop more anyway.  Imagine if I didn't have hip-hop.  I might be locked up now for 25 years for sellin' a kilo or some shit.

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