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Q & A W/ tarik "k-flex" nasheed: the definition of big pimpin'
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2004

thaFormula.com - What made you decide to write this book? 

Tariq - Well I been in the hustle game for a long ass time. I'm not that old, but I been in the game since I was real young and I earned a lot of stripes in the game and people was hearin’ about my techniques in the game and they would always ask me a lot of questions about how I spit at broads. They would tell me “nigga you need to write a book about your shit!” You need to break it down and you know let people know about the game. "The Art of Mackin’" is actually my second book. My first book was called "A Gangsta Speaks Out." I talked about a lot of social issues and I wanted that book to be first so people wouldn't say “well why would you put out something like The Art of Mackin’?” “You should have put something out pro black or positive,” and I did that already and it didn't sell that well. The first book sold about 1,500 copies. It got critical acclaim, it just didn't sell that well. When I put out "The Art of Mackin’," that shit took off like hot cakes. It has sold over 100,000 copies in a little over a year.

thaFormula.com - Financially, how good has this book been for you?

Tariq - It's been very good man. I mean I was financially straight you know before the book came out. It just upgraded the game a little bit. It just added a couple of more zeroes to my bank account. I was already getting’ my hustle on and stackin’ paper. It just upgraded a little bit. Another reason why I wanted to put it out is because there are so many relationship books for women out. They got whole sections for women tellin’ them how to get a man, how to marry a man, how to get a millionaire, how to trap a man, and all this shit and there was nothing for guys, especially young guys in our demographic. So I said let me just do something that has never been done before. Just really break the mackin’ game down without really being on some ego shit because you know most mack books or pimps books are like autobiographies. Guys will brag about how they were the greatest pimps and they had a million hoes and all this stuff. But I didn't want to do a book like that. I wanted to do a book that would specifically help other people out. In the art of mackin’, I talk about myself in like 2 paragraphs.

thaFormula.com - How much does looks have to do with being a mack and where would you rate looks?

Tariq - On a scale of 1 to 10 looks is 8. It's really last on the list. The first thing is confidence and number 2 is verbal conversation and looks is really low on the totem pole. A lot of guys try to think like men when it comes to figuring out women and that's where guys mess up. Men are physical creatures. We will date a bitch solely based on looks. The bitch could be a crack head working at Burger king but if she has a phat ass and a cute face, niggaz will still fuck with her. Females date dudes because of the way they make them feel emotionally. Females are more intrigued by what they hear. Guys are more intrigued by what they see. So if you wanna get a guy, it's all in the eyes. If you wanna get a broad it's all in the ears, so you really got to spit game at a broad. I tell guys all the time, it don't matter how you look. There was a movie called the Elephant Man, it came out about 22 years ago and it was a true story about this dude that was born with a big ass head. He was fucked up and people were throwin’ rocks at him. It was real sad. He became a circus freak and he was fucked up and at one point in his life he just said fuck it, “I’mma just get me a nice coat,” and he put a table cloth over that head and threw on a little derby and he just started lettin’ females hear his voice and the muthafucka got a love interest. In the movie the Elephant man has a bitch! So I tell dudes that if that ugly ass Elephant Man can get a bitch, you can get a bitch. It's all about your conversation.

thaFormula.com - If you looked like The Elephant Man, do you think you still would have wrote that book?

Tariq - Yeah! Because I see good-looking guys in good shape at the clubs who don't get no play because looks last like 2 or 3 minutes with a broad. You might get a female or chickenhead who might see a dude and say “oh, he's cute, Ill give him some pussy,” or whatever. He might luck up on it, but it's really the conversation. Chris Rock made a good joke when he said a man will fuck an ugly broad, but he won't be seen in public with her. A woman will be seen in public with an ugly man, but she won't fuck him. So you know it's all about the conversations you have man. You got to really intrigue a woman mentally. Women are all about fantasies. We teach women that you know you can sit around and fantasize and dream and shit like that so if you cater to her fantasies she will project whatever she wants to onto you.

thaFormula.com - What advice would you give a guy that constantly gets rejected by women and is just going through some tough times as far as getting’ a female goes?

Tariq – A lot of guys, their egos are very delicate and when you step to a bitch you can't be steppin’ to her with your ego on your shoulder. Everybody gets dissed. That's one thing you have to realize. Even the finest bitches will get dissed. For every one female that will diss you, there is twenty females that will be cooperative with you. Sometimes it has nothing to do with them. The Female might be on some other shit. A lot of females go out just to get attention or whatever and she might be going through some spousal abuse so there is a million things that could be going on in a bitches mind. The thing is you have to let her choose you. That's a very delicate subject. Unless a woman chooses you, whatever you say or whatever you do is not really gonna get her. You gotta let her choose and the way you let her choose is really step to her on a courtesy level. That means you spit at her without lettin’ her know your spittin’. When the average guy walks up to a female at a club, the first thing is, "Hey, what's your name?" or "You gotta man?" "Can I have your number?" That's very impersonal because she knows that it's not about her. She knows that you don't give a fuck about her. You just want a bitch. She knows this, so you can't come across like that. You have to come across like your genuinely trying to get to know her as a person first and then give her the option to give you some body language and cooperation to let you know that's she feelin’ you. So I tell dudes to step to a bitch on a courtesy level. That means that if I'm like at a supermarket and I see a cute broad instead of me runnin’ up to her and spittin’ at her like I'm tryin’ to get some ass or I'm trying to get a number, I step to her talking about something that's according to the surroundings I'm in. "Excuse me, do you know how to make a casserole?" You just make up some shit about food. If your at a mall and you approach a female, automatically her defenses are gonna go up because she don't know where you comin’ from, so she already has a set answer for a nigga who wants to spit. “Can I have your number?” “No I got a boyfriend.” You know the same old routine shit. So you gotta throw a curve ball at her. If you see a broad at the mall, again on a courtesy level you say some shit like, "Excuse me I never been to this mall before, do you know where I can get some nice clothing for men?" Now her defenses are gonna go down because you’re not trying to spit. So she will be like, “well you can go upstairs, there is a store upstairs.” So you say ok, cool and then, "so who are you here at the mall with?” Well, I'm here with my girlfriend and then you say "so what did you get today at the mall?” She will say, "Well I got this and that or whatever". And I would say, "So you must live around here or something." You’re on a courtesy level. You’re talkin’ to the bitch like she's one of the homies and your giving her an opportunity to choose you because you haven't chosen her yet. You ain't makin’ it seem like she's doing you a favor by sittin’ there talkin’ to you, and that's how you got to come across with broads. That way you won't get dissed, because there is not a reason to get dissed. You get dissed when you make an offer to a bitch and she rejects it. She can't reject courtesy. She can't reject a muthafucka that says, "Hey how you doing, nice weather." What she gonna say, "Oh no thank you." No thank you what bitch? What you talkin’ about?

thaFormula.com - Now let's get to signals. How do you know when your getting the right signal or the wrong signal from a female?

Tariq - That's a very good question. 93% of all communication is non-verbal. I tell guys “fuck what a bitch tells you.” What she says should be like blah, blah, blah. You look at her body language. Not only the body language, but her voice inflection and the way she says something. Two females can say the exact same thing, but they mean two totally different things. If you meet a female at a club, she's 21 years old, she's dressed in a nice suit, very conservative looking and you ask her "so what do you do for a living?" She might say, "Well I'm a paralegal, I work in an office, I'm going to school to get my P.H.D. and she says it like that, that's kind of believable. If you meet another bitch who is 21, has 8 tattoos, a nipple ring, her god damn make up lookin’ crazy, and a nappy weave, and you ask her “so what do you do.” “Well, um, um, I'm a paralegal, um, and um, I'm going to school to get my P.H.D.” Your gonna be like “hell nah, this bitch is full of shit!” So it's all about the voice inflections and the non-verbal information that a bitch gives you. You can tell when a female is really cooperative with you if you look at the signs. Because most females you know or some you might just be talkin’ to, may not be showing you any interest. She's just going along with the conversation. She might be looking down, she might be looking around or her arms might be folded. She's not feelin’ the dude and he's not picking up these signals. He's thinking with his ego.

thaFormula.com - So when you spot those types of signals, do you just say forget it and walk away?

Tariq - Nah, you just be courteous first because the only reason females do that is when the guy is coming on too strong. But 9 out of 10 times if your coming at a female and your in a social spot, they want a muthafucka to spit at them. 90% of the time if a bitch gets dressed up, she wants a muthafucka to spit, but you gotta make her earn your attention and really feel her out, and if your talkin’ to her on a courtesy level, there ain't gonna be no reason for her to be all balled up, looking crazy and all that shit. Women get like that when they are put in an uncomfortable situation, and they get uncomfortable when the guy is being forceful. You know shit like, “Alright write your number down”, “can I get your number”, “How come I ain't got your number yet?” “You got a man?” “What's your man got to do with me?” That type of shit makes a bitch be like, "Oh damn!"

thaFormula.com - Why do you think that approach stopped working?

Tariq - Because it's impersonal. That's primitive cave man games. That's what I call it and guys have resorted back to the caveman mentality when it comes to spittin’. Back in the ancient days, the Egyptians were the original macks. The Egyptians had Pharaohs, they had Kings. If you look at the Egyptian paintings, you have Egyptians up there with about 4 or five bitches chillin’” with him. Those were the original, “squares” is what I call them. They didn't really have any game. They just, if a dude in a cave saw a bitch walkin’ down the pathway, he'll hit her in the head with a stick and drag the bitch in the cave by her hair and fuck her. So you know, we got guys walkin’ around now with that mentality. Just primitive game, they ain't really focusing on their verbal. They will just be pullin’ on a bitch, grabbin’ on her hair, talkin’ dumb shit. There is no creativity to it and a female will feel like she's lowering her standards to cooperate with a dude who obviously has no game, or who is clearly not interested in her. He just wants a female, and females like I said can see through that shit. They can see it a mile away.

90 percent of the guys out there say the same exact shit. That's what guys don't know. "Oh! You got a man, what's your man got to Do with me?" Females hear that shit about 100 times a night, but when you step to her and you ain't on no, I'm jockin you, I'm sweatin you, you’re trying to get to know her, then she will be a little more cooperative. But don't get me wrong, some bitches like when muthafuckas spit to them that dumb shit because they like the attention. They love the attention. Attention for a woman is the equivalent of an orgasm for a man. That's some very important shit to remember. All men, we’re all about the nut. It all boils down to bustin’ a nut or getting power. Sex is a sense of power, getting money is a sense of power. All guys have that. All women want attention, being negative, positive or whatever, everybody’s bitch wants to get some kind of attention and attention is the equivalent of an orgasm. When a woman goes out, she don't have to talk to anybody in there. She will have everybody in there jockin’ her. She's perfectly satisfied with that. When you go on a date with a bitch, she's gonna make a nigga earn that orgasm like, “take me out”, “take me to dinner", whoopty whoop. "Before you get the pussy, you got to do this, you got to do that!" You got to treat her the same way as far as attention. But before you give her attention or before I spit at you about exchanging numbers, give me a reason to want to exchange numbers with you bitch! "What do you do for a living?" "Who do you live with?" You got to make a bitch feel like she's earning your attention, like you’re doing her a favor. You'll be like, "ok well you seem cool, I'll give you my number and I'll let you holla at me if you cool." That's the attitude you got to have with a bitch.

thaFormula.com - What is the best way for a guy to approach a female. Do you lie or do you tell the truth?

Tariq - There is no reason to lie, because when you lie, you got to keep up that lie and that takes too much energy. It's useless and that's the problem with guys now. Guys are doing to much just to get some pussy. You ain't got to lie to a bitch about shit. If your kind of embarrassed about your situation. Like some dudes might be broke. In that situation you don't lie, but you just be vague about your shit. If she's like, "where do you live?" You say "ahh, I got a little spot you know what I'm sayin’, I do my thang." "But this ain't about me, this is about you, where you live?" Always turn the shit back to her and women don't mind that because women love talkin’ about themselves. They don't have a problem talkin’ about themselves. You get that bitch to talk about herself, you in there.

thaFormula.com - Now what about when your havin’ a conversation and it seems like everything’s great, but when you ask her out, she says no?

Tariq - A lot of times those women be havin’ boyfriends. The thing is when you meet a bitch, don't bullshit yourself. Guys will get so caught up in bullshittin’ a bitch, they start bullshittin’ themselves. Don't try to impress a bitch, it's not your job to impress a bitch. That's like givin’ a bitch an orgasm for free. That's like you being a whore for her if you keep trying to impress her and buying roses, playing Brian McKnight in the background on her voice mail and all that sympin’ ass shit. You gotta spit at a bitch, like if you wanna fuck with me you gotta take me out. You gotta come at her on that shit. You got to really establish a pimp/ho relationship. Not necessarily puttin’ the bitch on the track, but you gotta establish that pimp/ho relationship, and mackin’ represents manhood. You just being a man about yours. Then there’s the gentleman bullshit. Women will say they want a gentleman, they want a nice guy, all that's bullshit. Throw all that out the window. Women will say they want one type of man and then turn around and date the exact opposite and the reason they do this is because they want to come across as being complex. Complexity for a woman is her biggest defense mechanism. You will never hear a woman that says, "Yeah, my ex boyfriend, he was a real gentleman." You will never hear that shit! It's always, "he was an asshole, he did this, the nigga kicked my ass, he stole from me." That's what turns a bitch on. A nigga who didn't give a fuck about her really, and made the bitch earn her attention. Now you can be nice to the bitch if she's your lady and all that, but you got to make her earn your attention. When you meet a broad, give her a chore, give her something to do. You got to qualify the female you fuck with, because all females are different. There is 4 categories, The high class, the middle class, the Chickenhead, and the Hoochie. So you got to find out what type of female she is and tell her your game when you spit at them. Say, "hey you seem cool, what don't you take me out to the movies or somethin’." Now a female who has got a little paper in her pocket, she ain't got a problem with doing that, but a broke bitch can barely feed herself. She's looking to get what she can get. That's why a true mack don't fuck with a broke bitch. You should always get a bitch who is qualified to bring something to the table.

thaFormula.com - Now what about if the woman tells the guy to take her out? Does this go for women to?

Tariq - Yeah, but as a mack, you got to get your priorities in order. Guys be sending me letters saying, "oh Tariq, I got a bitch, I read your book and I learned how to get bitches, but I stay at home with my Parents and I don't know where I can take the bitch to fuck her." I'm a mack, I'm not a real estate agent! That's some shit you got to figure out.

thaFormula.com - So before anything, you got to get your shit together?

Tariq - Yeah, get your shit together, because if your uncomfortable about something in your life. If your uncomfortable about not having a job or still livin’ at home with your parents, it's gonna show in your game. That's why confidence is number one on the list. You got to be 100 percent confident and you’re confident when your shit is together.

thaFormula.com - Now what about still livin’ at home with your moms?

Tariq - Then you got to hustle to get up out of there. That's what you focus on first. I mean you can sneak bitches around and all that shit, but your gonna get like little hoodrat bitches, and your gonna be uncomfortable when it comes to a top notch bitch.

thaFormula.com - So the only solution to that one is to get the hell out of there?

Tariq - Yeah, just get your shit together, which is not a hard thing to do. It's easier to get your shit together, then to lie to a bitch. It's harder to lie and keep up the lie using all that energy lyin’, frontin’ and perpetratin’, and going to your homies house. That's time that can be used getting’ your shit together. It's not hard to get your shit together, but most people think it's easier to bullshit a bitch to get some pussy. When I was 17, I lived alone. I was in the game at a young age. I lived by myself, so that's why I learned a lot of shit. I started dealin’ with top notch bitches at a young age and once you start fuckin’ with some top notch Halle Berry type hoes, them little bucket head hoes that you grew up with and all that shit, you look at them differently. Your game is on another level.

thaFormula.com - Does it take some type of practice for the average guy to reach that level?

Tariq - When you listen to muthafuckas that's been in the game, that helps out a lot.

thaFormula.com - Now what about those guys that approach a female, but get so nervous that they forget what to say?

Tariq - Yeah, I had one of my students with this problem. I was teachin’ him some game. I was tellin’ him to go to a club and holla at some females and he was stuttering and stuff, kind of nervous. I was tellin’ him there is no reason to be nervous. If you step to a bitch on a courtesy level, there is no reason to get nervous. In fact the worst thing a bitch can do is say no. Niggas be actin’ like the bitch is gonna kill them. She won't say no if your sayin’ the right shit to her. Niggas act like females are like aliens from another planet. Them bitches are human too and niggas be puttin’ to much value on these bitches. A lot of these bitches ain't shit, and that's really how you got to look at it. If the bitch is broke, livin’ with her mom, workin’ a minimum wage job, the bitch don't scare me! That's the kind of attitude you got to have. Why is she scaring you? Why is that little broke bitch at the club scaring you? She ain't shit, and that's the mentality you have to have.

thaFormula.com - So at this point in your life, is there any type of woman that intimidates you?

Tariq - Hell nah, I fuck with top notch, bad bitches. I fuck with the baddest bitches in the country, because I'm one of the top notch niggaz in the country. When I was coming up in the game and my shit wasn't 100 percent tight, I still fucked with bad ass bitches. I learned not to put too much value on a bitch, because a bitch is a bitch, she could be replaced. There is 8 women in this country on an average to every one dude. So why am I scared of this bitch. I'll just move on to the next broad. I fuck with celebrity broads. They are real cooperative with the game. A lot of people are thinkin, "well you fuck with top notch broads because you have a lot of paper." That's not it, because most bitches don't know that I have Benzes and Lexus's. They don't know that shit. I try to keep that shit a secret when I'm fuckin’ with a bitch. I have dated females for months and they never knew where I lived, or what I drove, because I don't let my material items get a bitch for me. Because when you let your material items get bitches, you become less confident about yourself and then you begin to identify your game with material shit. Like if you got a Benz and your Benz attracts hoes, once your Benz is in the shop, you’re assed out. You can't get a bitch no more. A lot of niggaz want to get into the rap game and become a basketball player or whatever to get bitches. I know a lot of rappers and I see this all the time. When their shit is hot on the charts, they get bitches. When they ain't got no records out, them niggaz are in the club lookin’ crazy ass hell. Lonelier then a muthafucka! So you got to depend on game 100 percent. I get bitches 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Any time I want too. I don't need a muthafuckin’ record or a contract or none of that shit.

thaFormula.com - What's the best exercise to do as far as practice goes?

Tariq - The best exercise to do is just to use the “courtesy level” when you step to a female, and plus you got to have the confidence to back it up. If you don't have the confidence to back it up, it's not gonna work. If a guy is walkin’ up to a female and he's unsure of himself, he's worried about his gear not being as tight as it is, or worried about if his momma is gonna page him so he can bring the car back and all that shit, he's gonna walk up to the bitch with that lack of confidence showing. Bitches can smell insecurity a mile away. That's why I say you got to have your shit together. So as a mack, your priorities have to be in order. You got to work on yourself first. Mackin’ is really 80 percent self-improvement really. Because once you have your shit together, bitches will gravitate to you, because when your shit is together, your gonna hold your head up high. Your gear is gonna be a little fly’er or more coordinated. Not more expensive, but more coordinated. Your shit is gonna be intact. Your gonna have more authority in your voice when you know your shit is intact. When you know you got a dollar in your pocket. When you know you got your shit together at the crib. Females gravitate towards that shit.

thaFormula.com - Now what about gear? Is that a big thing?

Tariq - Well, you should be neat. You should have your shit coordinated. Your clothes makes the man. It attracts the type of females you wanna fuck with. When I go out with some of my partners, everybody dresses differently. One of my friends dresses real mackish, another dresses real trendy, and another dresses real thugged out, and all three brothers get different type of females. Like my partner who dresses like a mack, that nigga gets like strippers and dancers and shit like that. My partner who dresses trendy gets them video type hoes. My partner who is thugged out gets the little hoodrat bitches because that's what they like. So it depends on the kind of bitch you like fuckin’ with. Now I like strippers and hoes and top notch bitches because at least they got some paper. They can bring some shit to the table and plus they are more receptive to give up some pussy. Where as to a chickenhead bitch, or a broke bitch, the pussy is her trump card. A bitch needs her pussy to eat. That's the only thing she's got going for her. A ghetto bitch holds on to her pussy sacred. The bitch be fuckin’ the same nigga she was fuckin’ since she was 14 and she broke and she wants a nigga to feed her, and you got to take here, here and there. Oh nah, a bitch like that has no value. I'm not doing all that shit.

thaFormula.com - Now what about shape and looks, do you think you would still be mackin’ if your were a fat, bald headed ugly muthafucka?

Tariq - I got a partner who is one of my pimp friends, he's a big ol’ nigga. Young cat who is big as hell, but the nigga get hoes like a muthafucka. That nigga got like 3 bad bitches. So I know it ain't about looks because I see it everyday. I go out to the track. I see little niggas that look like midgets with bitches on the track. Looks ain't got shit to do with it man. It's all about the conversation a muthafucka has. Hell! Ja Rule is a sex symbol and if Ja Rule was a little nigga workin’ at Kinkos or something, he couldn't buy a bitch! That nigga couldn't buy a bitch!! But they find him sexy because of his confidence. So that's important man, because it ain't about looks.

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